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Post by Silwyna on Nov 27, 2007 21:09:32 GMT 1
from tv.com:
In this Christmas-themed episode, Sam and Dean encounter a twisted couple that insist they are Pagan gods and share a craving for human meat. Flashbacks follow the Winchesters during Christmas 16 years ago when Sam first learned that demons existed and that his father hunted them.
First Aired: Thursday December 13, 2007
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Post by Silwyna on Nov 27, 2007 21:10:17 GMT 1
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Post by yor on Dec 13, 2007 19:08:35 GMT 1
WHOO HOO!!! Due to my "condition", I'm NOT watching the kids... SO I'm watching this LIVE tonight. (I'm not going to the concert either!) CAN'T WAIT!!! I think I'll make a special treat and break out an "adult" drink as well... WHOO HOO!!!
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Post by Silwyna on Dec 13, 2007 21:21:25 GMT 1
Have a drink for me Of course I'm sorry you're going to miss the concert ... but seeing this episode live is hopefully worth it. The clips I've seen so far are just sooooo good!!!! Enjoy
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Post by yor on Dec 13, 2007 21:27:40 GMT 1
I shall try not to taunt too much...
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Post by Silwyna on Dec 13, 2007 21:36:34 GMT 1
I'll see how that worked tomorrow morning LOL
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Post by yor on Dec 14, 2007 4:00:58 GMT 1
OK... I am SO doomed to not see Supernatural over and over...
When is season three coming out on DVD?
I checked the tape before... But, long story short... in the middle of the episode, the tape runs out...
I jump up, grab another tape and stick it in. I don't think I lost much... but, nope... My body is not yet ready to move that fast.
As for the episode.... I'm saying only two things at this point.
#1. The new young Sam... WAY BETTER... some scary close facial expressions. Kudos to casting!
#2. I about cried at the end... DAMN EMOTIONAL! and I don't think it was my own pain.
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Post by Silwyna on Dec 14, 2007 19:53:32 GMT 1
It's already on youtube. I'm going to watch it right now
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Post by Silwyna on Dec 14, 2007 20:45:13 GMT 1
Oh wow, this was one of the best things I've ever seen!!! I've been crying, laughing and hiding under the blanket through this whole tooth and nail pulling scene. The flashbacks were sooo sweet *sniff* And I love that it was Sam who gave Dean the necklace; that's how I've always imagined it. And that last scene ... I can't wait to get my hands on the DVD's. YOR, what part did you miss on the tape?
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Post by yor on Dec 14, 2007 23:01:51 GMT 1
It was awesome... The last scene is a total heart breaker. JP's expressions were PERFECTION! (Not that JA weren't.)
And their gift exchange... I mean seriously...
The episode did leave me SCREAMING with a fic idea for Jess and Sam's first christmas...
The flashbacks, and again I repeat, the new young Sam is WAY better... but I digress... Left me SOOOO frakking angry with John... There's a fic there too.
I will nit one point. When Sam gives Dean the amulet... Way cool... BUT I thought his reasoning ("Dad lied to me.") was kinda lame. He had lots of better reasons...
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Post by Silwyna on Dec 15, 2007 10:25:32 GMT 1
I too like the new young Sam so much better. As for his reasoning for giving Dean the amulet ... I think he was utterly disappointed by his father at this moment. From his point, he has lied to him his whole life. We always see our fathers as this perfect person; he never does any mistakes, he's invincible and nothing bad is going to happen because he'll always be around to make us feel safe. And Sam has just lost all this. He might not have been able to say all this in words, but I think that's why he gave Dean the amulet. Because in that moment Dean was all these things for him. He was there, he told him the truth and he made him feel safe. I had always thought about writing a fic about Sam's and Jess' first Christmas. But in my version, Sam was always excited, and a bit shy, about having a real family Christmas. Boy, was I wrong LOL I look forward into what your story ideas will evolve
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Post by yor on Dec 15, 2007 15:17:28 GMT 1
I'm sure Sam was feeling all those things about his dad... And I have no problems with him giving Dean the amulet... I just think "He lied to me" was the wrong phrasing... Course, that means I should come up with something to replace it, doesn't it... I think it seems too simple for me. Sam has always been able to express his feelings... I need to get over it. Maybe I'll go think about a Jess and Sam christmas...
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Post by Silwyna on Dec 15, 2007 19:10:40 GMT 1
I think it seems too simple for me. Sam has always been able to express his feelings...
He was only eight then, maybe he hasn't learned it yet then.
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Post by yor on Dec 17, 2007 23:47:46 GMT 1
I was just reading the review over at Supernaturaltv.com... This line captured my problem with Sam saying "he lied to me." Dean had literally stolen a Christmas for him in an attempt to make him happy and secure in his father’s love, and when he in turn had given Dean the present he’d gotten from Bobby for John – the amulet that Dean has worn ever since I think that defined it for me. Although, I suppose he wasn't able to express it at the time, but it seems to me he would have said, "You're the one who's really here for me." Or something like that...
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Post by Silwyna on Dec 18, 2007 14:19:08 GMT 1
I still think that he said that with his words.
Sam grew up with John and Dean and neither of them is really into chickflick-moments. At this time, Sam doesn't really closely know many people besides these two, so I think that he simply hasn't learned yet to express his feelings openly and with so many words.
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