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Post by Silwyna on Sept 21, 2010 17:51:44 GMT 1
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Post by yor on Oct 30, 2010 2:02:52 GMT 1
trying a live feedback, as I'm watching my first live episode.
BTW, I don't think it's Sam.
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Post by yor on Oct 30, 2010 2:23:04 GMT 1
Keeping in mind, that I've not watched an entire episode since the premire... Wow! Dean's drinking a lot!
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Post by yor on Oct 30, 2010 2:29:18 GMT 1
OK, FUNNY phone conversation with Bobby!
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Post by mick on Oct 30, 2010 3:19:20 GMT 1
Ugh...I think I'm going to have to give up this show. Sorry, but I'm over Dean's lack of self-worth and over the whole "something is wrong with Sam." I thought this season was suppose to be a reset, but to me it's the same song, different verse, with way more angst and blood. And the preview? Really I mean, I already kind of knew, as I read that JA said something about it at the latest con, but I really was hoping he wasn't being literal. Guess I was wrong. I find it lame and ridiculous. But I guess that'll be the overall arc for this season (with some alpha stuff thrown in). Of course, Lisa said what we've all been saying for years about the brothers' relationship. I wish Dean had let Sam have it about lying for a year, but I guess it doesn't matter now as we know why he did it. {{bangs head on desk}} I don't know...I'm not totally ready to give it up, but I'm sure getting close.
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Post by yor on Oct 31, 2010 14:20:33 GMT 1
I agree with you on many points. At the same time, I've just lowered my expectations. Then again, this was the first episode I've actually watched since the premier.
I kinda feel the same way, and then the scene with Bobby and Dean will come along and I'll know why I loved the show once.
I kinda like the "Sam came back without a soul, can't feel emotion" line... I'm ok with that part. It makes sense that he didn't come back "ok". Yeah, I get the frustration over his old games. Why couldn't he just admit it? Maybe he hoped Dean would help him feel something? I dunno?
I am more sick over "poor is me Dean." At least I can find justification for Sam's lies. Honestly, Dean not getting off the pity party doesn't work for me. (And it isn't because I'm Sam girl. I'm sick o Sam too.)
I don't plan my week around it... but I can't see giving it up. After all, I saw freakin' BSG to the end.
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Post by mick on Oct 31, 2010 16:43:05 GMT 1
I've just lowered my expectations.I think this what I am going to have to do. I stuck out with BSG, too, so I imagine I'll do the same with SPN. Sam came back without a soulI have a HUGE problem with this. Isn't a soul what makes a person a person? Up until this point, when a person on this show was without a soul, it was because they sold it and were killed when it came time to collect. And, to me, Sam has shown some emotion, just not any nice ones. Without a soul, wouldn't he just be a walking zombie? And is this going to be a whole season of finding his soul? Hey--I wonder if they'll find the part of Dean that he left in the pit (of course, I'm sure the writers have forgotten all about that, seeing how much of season 4 was forgotten)? At least I can find justification for Sam's liesAnd herein lies another HUGE problem for me. The show always gives some reason for Sam's actions, there's always some way for him to get excused for the wrong things he does--he's under some sort of spell or he's addicted to blood. And then some of it is also blamed on Dean (like when Sam told him Dean was part of the reason that Sam went to Ruby). For once, I want it to be Sam and only Sam, for there to be no excuses and no one else to blame and no other circumstances--his choices only. Otherwise, he's always the victim.(And I don't mean him stopping the not-apocalypse, as I never felt like that was something he should have to redeem himself for. He didn't act alone as far as that was concerned.) And I honestly don't want to see a "who's hell was worse" story, but I have no faith in the writers, so I won't be surprised if they do go there. "poor is me Dean."I'm sick of this, too. I thought we had moved passed it, and then he gave that whole speech about being a "killer." Ugh--I just wanted to throw-up. I think he just needs to let Sam go and go back to Lisa--and get some professional help! To me, this isn't a reset, it's just a retread. It's the same story in a different package. Maybe I 'll take a page out of Dean's book and start drinking when I watch the show!!!
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Post by yor on Nov 8, 2010 3:46:21 GMT 1
Maybe I 'll take a page out of Dean's book and start drinking when I watch the show!!! You mean you aren't? well, there's the problem!
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Post by mick on Nov 9, 2010 2:35:06 GMT 1
You mean you aren't?Not yet...I was considering it after this episode, but the most recent episode sealed the deal!
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